灌水了好久之后,总希望使用Alpine电子邮件客户端来达成英文的BBS体验。

我一度订阅了不少邮件列表,但还是有点缺陷:

1) 本地联Fastmail速度不够快 (用了maildir虽然快,但是同步比较累人)
2) 订阅邮件还是不能像在BBS里那样各个版面串来串去

直到今天。

用Alpine通过NNTP读GMANE/GWENE

在Alpine的配置里:

NNTP Server (for news)              = news.gmane.io
NNTP Range                          = 2000

Incoming Check Interval             = 30   
Enable Multiple Newsrcs             #这样就可以订阅多个nntp服务器了,分别以.news-rc-<servername>来保存未读/订阅信息

然后在L - Folder List订阅里按A添加:

News-Collection <News on news.gmane.io/nntp> :

gmane.announce
gmane.mail.alpine.announce
gwene.com.hacker-news.full
gmane.comp.encryption.general
gmane.mail.alpine.info
gwene.com.rtl-sdr
gmane.comp.security.forensics
gmane.network.tor.user
gwene.com.wired.wired
gmane.emacs.devel
gmane.org.operators.tuna.fit
gwene.net.binsearch.rss.alt.binaries.e-book
gmane.ietf.curdle
gmane.org.operators.tuna.general
gwene.net.lwn.headlines
gmane.ietf.ipv6
gmane.org.operators.tuna.mirrors
gwene.org.arxiv.computer.science
gmane.ietf.nat66
gmane.org.region.china.cpyug.obp
gwene.org.arxiv.rss.math.fa
gmane.ietf.rfc.announce
gmane.os.openbsd.misc
gwene.org.slashdot
gmane.ietf.rfc.interest
gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english
gwene.org.solidot
gmane.ietf.w3c
gmane.user-groups.linux.ustclug
gwene.uk.co.bbc.news.world
gmane.linux.network
gwene.com.arstechnica

News-Collection <news.aioe.org> :

alt.os.linux
comp.sys.raspberry-pi
comp.text.tex

小名词解释:

  • GMANE : Mailing list转NNTP “Mail to News”
  • GWENE : RSS 转 NNTP
    • gwene.com.reddit.* 提供了reddit的网关

未读/已读

对于alpine来说,~/.newsrc会保存各newsgroup的未读/已读标记,用区间的方式,虽然粗略但十分有效。

在alpine的里要按d键砍/删信,才会将已读标记更新到.newsrc里。这一点跟普通邮件阅读模式不太一样

水木用的也是这种方式记录

USENET

免费的:

  • https://xsusenet.com/ 注册一下,0元/月,选比特币支付就行了,省得绑信用卡
    • free.xsusenet.com
  • newszilla.xs4all.nl 据说v6的不需要密码
  • news.aioe.orgnntp.aioe.org
    • aioe.helpdeskalt.* alt.survival

收费的:

  • Giganews
  • eweka
  • tweaknews (速度不错)

信区:

joshua: 下资源的话,一般需要一个indexer和专门的下载器。否则自己搜索+一篇一篇自己解码要累死了😂
scateu: 发现了… 太多了 一个帖子才0.4MB

其它新闻组服务器

  • news.mozilla.org (在Alpine M S L里要写news.mozilla.org/nntp 是Alpine的表示方法,说明这个URL是nntp协议)
    • mozilla.*netscape.*
  • news.php.net

客户端

一行命令流

alpine -url news://nntp.lore.kernel.org/com.zx2c4.lists.wireguard
w3m nntp://nntp.lore.kernel.org/com.zx2c4.lists.wireguard

See Also

2020年还活跃的版面

在下于2020年2月23日抓了一下novaBBS的首页,供大家参考:

  Msgs Topics
alt.arts.poetry.comments 50405 4419
alt.fan.frank-zappa 394 119
alt.fan.heinlein 412 72
alt.fan.starwars 199 87
alt.games.warcraft 225 36
alt.history.what-if 1881 192
alt.horror 3265 438
alt.language.urdu.poetry 2090 194
alt.music.lyrics 171 96
alt.toys.transformers 2546 564
alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer 296 133
alt.tv.days-of-our-lives 4904 747
alt.tv.law-and-order 3384 658
alt.tv.survivor 2300 489
rec.arts.animation 668 293
rec.arts.anime.misc 344 183
rec.arts.books 475 449
rec.arts.books.childrens 506 409
rec.arts.books.tolkien 208 69
rec.arts.comics.creative 690 318
rec.arts.comics.dc.universe 102 49
rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe 44 29
rec.arts.comics.strips 3255 652
rec.arts.disney.parks 1898 372
rec.arts.drwho 63125 15082
rec.arts.movies.current-films 4319 1508
rec.arts.movies.international 51 48
rec.arts.movies.past-films 2155 824
rec.arts.mystery 128 88
rec.arts.poems 1887 1391
rec.arts.sf.composition 160 34
rec.arts.sf.movies 431 119
rec.arts.sf.science 125 29
rec.arts.sf.tv 1887 348
rec.arts.sf.written 42642 2739
rec.arts.startrek.current 195 45
rec.arts.theatre.misc 10 4
rec.arts.tv 168389 27660
rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs 1726 283
rec.arts.tv.uk.coronation-st 1153 222
rec.music.artitsts.kiss 226 46
rec.music.classical 299 198
rec.music.classical.guitar 1056 183
rec.music.classical.recordings 11890 1427
rec.music.dylan 6050 868
rec.music.opera 280 188
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s 11761 882
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s 115 77
alt.test 4396 4097
     
alt.astronomy 4589 575
alt.dreams 678 178
alt.dreams.castaneda 1845 189
alt.education 874 657
alt.engineering.electrical 326 75
alt.english.usage 2340 569
alt.folklore.urban 314 166
alt.food.fast-food 2516 212
alt.food.wine 330 152
alt.humor.puns 4346 198
alt.language.latin 534 113
alt.lasers 12 5
alt.law-enforcement 2155 1110
alt.life.sucks 13419 954
alt.locksmithing 163 64
alt.military.retired 2627 1883
alt.obituaries 5873 2321
alt.paranormal 84 33
alt.sci.physics.new-theories 109 51
alt.usage.english 131429 5647
rec.antiques.radio+phono 228 46
rec.audio.high-end 299 45
rec.audio.pro 1903 147
rec.audio.tubes 132 31
rec.autos.tech 713 132
rec.aviation.military 1779 789
rec.aviation.piloting 153 118
rec.aviation.soaring 12481 1247
rec.bicycles.misc 362 115
rec.bicycles.racing 168 127
rec.bicycles.tech 19804 616
rec.birds 226 59
rec.crafts.brewing 163 39
rec.crafts.metalworking 3444 941
rec.food.cooking 126624 4325
rec.gambling.lottery 2799 507
rec.games.backgammon 3374 508
rec.games.bridge 917 88
rec.games.pinball 3079 835
rec.games.trivia 2006 222
rec.gardens 323 126
rec.guns 193 83
rec.humor 115 46
rec.humor.oracle 9 9
rec.motorcycles 312 73
rec.outdoors.rv-travel 4409 576
rec.photo.digital 10033 541
rec.puzzles.crosswords 1364 124
rec.woodworking 4068 371
     
alt.bbs.ads 631 622
alt.bbs.mystic 796 182
alt.bbs.synchronet 7161 1050
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt 1744 290
alt.comp.os.windows-10 22459 1450
alt.folklore.computers 7090 448
alt.free.newsservers 797 138
alt.html 240 38
alt.internet.wireless 518 41
alt.msdos.batch 148 20
alt.online-service.comcast 528 78
alt.os.linux 14166 729
alt.os.linux.mageia 2553 239
alt.os.linux.mint 3252 336
alt.os.linux.slackware 865 132
alt.os.linux.suse 301 42
alt.os.linux.ubuntu 6021 409
alt.os.multics 15 15
alt.privacy.anon-server 8672 1395
alt.privacy.anon-server.stats 3181 3178
alt.sys.pdp10 427 56
alt.sys.pdp11 260 44
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent 1825 223
alt.windows7.general 10272 806
comp.ai.philosophy 2997 406
comp.arch 7740 409
comp.arch.embedded 869 85
comp.arch.fpga 1734 215
comp.dcom.telecom 1441 1306
comp.dsp 1100 189
comp.emulators.apple2 250 36
comp.graphics.apps.gimp 93 28
comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot 177 53
comp.infosystems.gopher 84 16
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html 197 17
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets 211 40
comp.internet.services.google 135 51
comp.mail.pine 260 41
comp.mail.sendmail 275 60
comp.misc 4528 645
comp.mobile.android 8541 613
comp.mobile.ipad 3263 269
comp.os.coherent 61 11
comp.os.cpm 1947 249
comp.os.linux.misc 5772 359
comp.os.msdos.misc 1000 156
comp.os.os2.ecomstation 408 75
comp.os.vms 8125 442
comp.periphs.printers 141 41
comp.sys.acorn.apps 1095 109
comp.sys.acorn.hardware 422 35
comp.sys.acorn.misc 685 72
comp.sys.acorn.networking 259 19
comp.sys.acorn.programmer 367 40
comp.sys.apple2 3466 407
comp.sys.apple2.programmer 517 56
comp.sys.cbm 648 215
comp.sys.hp48 127 50
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action 3361 417
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure 9 6
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg 47 20
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic 10 6
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage 148 38
comp.sys.mac.apps 1183 133
comp.sys.mac.misc 494 78
comp.sys.mac.system 8956 486
comp.sys.raspberry-pi 3670 229
comp.sys.tandem 405 96
comp.text.pdf 1131 173
comp.theory 3532 361
comp.unix.shell 2831 238
comp.unix.solaris 341 63
     
alt.lang.asm 620 70
comp.compilers 358 97
comp.databases.ms-access 682 146
comp.databases.mysql 384 53
comp.lang.ada 3370 496
comp.lang.apl 630 167
comp.lang.asm.x86 625 80
comp.lang.awk 372 68
comp.lang.c 12035 478
comp.lang.c++ 10180 612
comp.lang.clarion 177 62
comp.lang.clipper 76 22
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects 776 150
comp.lang.cobol 253 38
comp.lang.forth 10164 553
comp.lang.fortran 3851 365
comp.lang.functional 13 10
comp.lang.haskell 20 9
comp.lang.java.programmer 641 132
comp.lang.javascript 3282 307
comp.lang.lisp 1724 415
comp.lang.mumps 180 47
comp.lang.perl.misc 509 108
comp.lang.postscript 364 83
comp.lang.prolog 1840 194
comp.lang.python 8528 2388
comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin 148 49
comp.lang.tcl 3990 775
comp.lang.xharbour 855 144
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 407 81
comp.os.msdos.programmer 1644 211
comp.protocols.dicom 540 168
comp.unix.programmer 1220 85
     
alt.assassination.jfk 19568 1749
alt.atheism 310874 26375
alt.bible 36213 3647
alt.bible.prophecy 70316 11137
alt.censorship 429 185
alt.christnet 391 252
alt.christnet.bible 1171 717
alt.christnet.christianlife 58465 6411
alt.christnet.theology 5209 1158
alt.conspiracy 10141 2478
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh 133787 35012
alt.fan.sean-hannity 333 254
alt.freemasonry 104 59
alt.global-warming 45205 20913
alt.journalism.criticism 1214 476
alt.messianic 19252 1647
alt.mexico 110 70
alt.news-media 2056 571
alt.philosophy.taoism 5905 703
alt.philosophy.zen 2134 575
alt.politics 47784 20703
alt.radio.talk 995 922
alt.religion 1688 1414
alt.religion.christian 1817 1014
alt.religion.hindu 749 613
alt.religion.islam 613 293
     
alt.sport.horse-racing 226 101
alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox 1199 621
alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets 2154 497
alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants 1528 438
alt.sports.baseball.wash-nationals 957 324
alt.sports.basketball.nba.gs-warriors 2239 1738
alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers 325 261
alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys 877 517
alt.sports.football.pro.miami-dolphins 2153 395
alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants 8742 2033
alt.sports.football.pro.phila-eagles 8313 3500
alt.sports.football.pro.sd-chargers 753 480
alt.sports.football.pro.sea-seahawks 125 103
alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers 1591 792
alt.sports.football.pro.wash-redskins 568 343
alt.sports.hockey.nhl.mtl-canadiens 908 153
alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united 2979 1198
rec.autos.sport.cart 73 51
rec.autos.sport.f1 4690 522
rec.autos.sport.indy 29 14
rec.autos.sport.nascar 220 96
rec.sport.football.college 47612 6628
uk.sport.cricket 10814 1222